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November 4, 2015 / jeffnward

I wouldn’t believe the Edgar County Watchdogs if their tongues came notarized!

This is why I love Dave Gathman

http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/elgin-courier-news/news/ct-ecn-elgin-schools-u46-watchdogs-st-1104-20151103-story.html

Given this great coverage, what I’d like you to do is to first digest Dave’s story and then read the Edgar County Watchdog’s comments on this blog post because, to quote them, they couldn’t get their “facts straight” if the facts bit them squarely in the ass.

And those facts are

1. Neither Tony Sanders nor any U-46 employee engaged in any illegal credit card activity. Those charges may have been against District policy, but they certainly weren’t a crime.

2. There were no violations of the Open Meetings Act as the Kane County State’s attorney will soon opine. The only reason U-46 changed the method in which they posted school board meeting notices is because it was far easier to placate these two loons than to court more of this abject stupidity.

3. Feeding board members who come straight from work to an often lengthy meeting can in no way be considered “compensation.”

4. Despite the ECW’s protests, six – count ’em – six EPD officers show up at that now infamous board meeting and these “gentlemen” DID try to have the school board arrested. The only other possibility is that Mr. Gathman has s suddenly decided to start lying.

5. For all their effort and all of this agita, the only things these two blowhard bullies managed to “accomplish” is to change how the board meetings are posted in advance and force the U-46 board to hire an EPD officer at 68 bucks an hour. The reason U-46 took this security guard step is because the ECW loons followed the board back into a restricted area at the meeting they tried to have them arrested.

5. Despite their claim of ignorance, having attended hundreds of governmental board meetings throughout the state, the ECW knew damn well that, not only was following the board into the closed session meeting room beyond the pale, but it could’ve been cause for arrest.

6. All of their “concerns” could’ve been address in a simple email to U-46 CEO Tony Sanders, whom I guarantee would’ve responded appropriately. But that kind of reasonable activism doesn’t feed your massive ego or get you press coverage now does it?

ECW

And now these two loons want to come on Left, Right and You! Larry and I will continue to discuss that possibility as well as cover this particular topic on Thursday’s (11/5) show! Meanwhile, I wouldn’t believe anything that comes of the ECW’s mutual mouths.

P.S. Oh! And by the way, the ECW loons do not allow posts on their facebook page. Can you say “hypocrisy?” I knew you could!

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  1. Kirk Allen / Nov 4 2015 10:02 am

    1. So are you saying when a public credit card is used for personal expenses it is not a crime?

    2. Says you

    3. The board can set the time for their meetings and there is no need to schedule it during dinner time. How many citizens dont attend because of such timing? I know there is no perfect time for everyone.

    4. We informed the ONE officer that arrived what our intentions were, which was a citizen arrrest. She assured us that wont be necessary and the superviosr also confirmed there is no need because they assured us we will be allowed to speak. They said if they dont allow us time to speak, they, the police, will name them as suspects in the criminal complaint as directed by the States Attorney.

    5. I will donate $1,000.00 to any charity you wish if you can provide one shred of evidence we followed the board members as you claimed. DID NOT HAPPEN and there are plenty of witnesses that were there.

    6. Yeah, Right. A simple FOIA for credit card statements ended up with a denial by claiming they dont have credit cards and informed me they use P Cards and if that is what I wanted then I need to file another FOIA. They knew what I wanted but clearly were trying to make it difficult. When I got the p card statements, they are credit card statements. Call them what you want, its using CREDIT to make purchase and it is a plastic card.

    Open and transparent? Why were claims of amounts being reimbursed not provided with that FOIA?

    If you think buying Oakland A’s ball game tickets in California and having the taxpayers of U46 pick up the bill then I guess your understanding of illegal is much different than ours and our legal system.

  2. Kirk Allen / Nov 4 2015 10:05 am

    In regards to #5, the evidence must be credible, as in multiple witnesses, not some security guy that made the claim even though he was not there.

  3. Kirk Allen / Nov 4 2015 10:11 am

    “P.S. Oh! And by the way, the ECW loons do not allow posts on their facebook page. Can you say “hypocrisy?” I knew you could!”

    You posted on our facebook page so your statement is a lie. Your post had nothing to do with the article you posted on and you were banned because it was nothing more than a post linking back to your site, which we dont support such spamming.

    • jeffnward / Nov 4 2015 10:41 am

      Kirk,

      You don’t allow posts, you allow comments which is not nearly the same thing. Sheesh! You can’t even get that right!

  4. jeffnward / Nov 4 2015 10:14 am

    Kirk,

    The ease with which you lie is unfathomable. And my evidence for the $1,000 payment is you! Per Dave Gathman, “Kraft and Allen denied that they had done anything to threaten board members’ safety and said they had not realized they were entering a secured area.”

    Dave is one of the best reporters on the planet who clearly reported exactly what you told him – you didn’t realize you were entering a secured area. So you did follow the board members! What more proof do I need?

    Then there’s the fact that there were 6 EPD officers at the first meeting, you did try to make a citizens arrest, and those credit purchases were not illegal. And you either consistently change your story or continue to blatantly lie about those topics while accomplishing absolutely nothing except feeding your massive egos.

    You two have taken bullying to an obscene level and really should be ashamed of yourselves. Meanwhile you can send my thousand dollar check to the radio station.

    Jeff

  5. Kirk Allen / Nov 4 2015 10:56 am

    Now I know why you have a radio show! Great comedy and plenty of fodder to work with.

    “Per Dave Gathman, “Kraft and Allen denied that they had done anything to threaten board members’ safety and said they had not realized they were entering a secured area.”

    His quote, that your provided, does not say we followed anyone anywhere. The so called secured area is where we were DIRECTED to go for the meeting by a U46 employee. The room we were directed to is where the board members were already sittign down and eating. They have never even opened the meeting in the baord room. We asked when they were going to start the meeting.

    If that area was supposed to be secure then they need a new security system. No signs said that, like the do now, and since we were directed to that room clearly it was not secure when we did it.

    No sir, you have not provided any evidence to support your lie.

    Even though the reporter claimed the security gaurd said we followed them, that very security gaurd, in front of a police officer, admitted he does not know what we did or did not do because he was not there.

    “Dave is one of the best reporters on the planet who clearly reported exactly what you told him – you didn’t realize you were entering a secured area.” And if we had said we followed them in he would have reported that, which he did not.

    “So you did follow the board members! What more proof do I need? ”

    How convenient for you to add in your assumption of us following the board members.

    Interesting how you refuse to answer a simple question. Is spending tax payer money on personal purchases legal. Yes or no?

  6. jeffnward / Nov 4 2015 12:52 pm

    Kirk, Under certain circumstances NO, it isn’t. And after talking with Larry we decided there’s no point in talking to you any further. You can post away here to your heart’s content, but you won’t be coming on Left, Right and You.

    Oh! And by the way, I understand one of you is a township supervisor. I think it’s time to issue some FOIA’s

  7. Kirk Allen / Nov 4 2015 6:11 pm

    There is NO circumstance that spending public money for personal purchase is not a crime. It violates criminal code and our constitution.

    (720 ILCS 5/33E-16)
    Sec. 33E-16. Misapplication of funds.
    (a) An officer, director, agent, or employee of, or affiliated in any capacity with any unit of local government or school district commits misapplication of funds when he or she knowingly misapplies any of the moneys, funds, or credits of the unit of local government or school district.
    (b) Sentence. Misapplication of funds is a Class 3 felony.

    And please, dont try to tell us they did it without knowing.

    Article VIII of our State Constitution
    SECTION 1. GENERAL PROVISIONS
    (a) Public funds, property or credit shall be used only
    for public purposes.
    (b) The State, units of local government and school
    districts shall incur obligations for payment or make
    payments from public funds only as authorized by law or
    ordinance.

    There is no law or ordinance that allows public credit to be used for personal use.

    Just because most states attorneys dont prosecute public corruption doesn’t mean those people didn’t violate the law. But you already know that with your involvement in Kane County and understanding of ethics.

    And if issuing FOIA’s makes you feel better then go for it as we have nothing to hide.

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